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		<title>By: lucas meza</title>
		<link>http://glenandpaula.com/wordpress/archives/2007/08/20/zeitgeist/comment-page-1#comment-30160</link>
		<dc:creator>lucas meza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pastor who commented Thomas I think his name was, this is for you...

If you truly are a pastor, do not let some movie come between you and your faith. You truly love Jesus and that&#039;s what&#039;s important. I do think it is vital to keep an open mind, and I think you do that. It&#039;s just you can&#039;t let some cult movie shake your faith, whatever that is.

That&#039;s just what I think...I mean I didn&#039;t even mention my take on the movie or my beliefs so please don&#039;t bash me lol.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pastor who commented Thomas I think his name was, this is for you…</p>
<p>If you truly are a pastor, do not let some movie come between you and your faith. You truly love Jesus and that’s what’s important. I do think it is vital to keep an open mind, and I think you do that. It’s just you can’t let some cult movie shake your faith, whatever that is.</p>
<p>That’s just what I think…I mean I didn’t even mention my take on the movie or my beliefs so please don’t bash me lol.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeitgeist movie is true! From the religious point of view, to the political. We are controlled by religion and politics and we know it. So we deserve our faith! I don&#039;t believe in things, I believe what I feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeitgeist movie is true! From the religious point of view, to the political. We are controlled by religion and politics and we know it. So we deserve our faith! I don’t believe in things, I believe what I feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the March 15th of the world premiere of the movie Zeitgeist will cause a lot of newspapers from a lot countries to start hounding the U.S. Government to admit they were behind the 9/11 attack. These people need to be removed from power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the March 15th of the world premiere of the movie Zeitgeist will cause a lot of newspapers from a lot countries to start hounding the U.S. Government to admit they were behind the 9/11 attack. These people need to be removed from power.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Cole: No. If the movie was correct it would be a good argument for not believing in Christianity, but it would not be a good argument for becoming a pagan. Showing that a false idea comes from another source doesn&#039;t make the original source true.

to Ash: even if you are correct about the constellation shifting in the horizon over the centuries, it doesn&#039;t establish your point. The Southern Cross remains a modern invention and the fact remains that the Romans crucifed people left and right without needing any astrological reason for their preferred method of execution.

It&#039;s been six months since I wrote this post, and since then a helpful review by Ben Witherington has been posted - &lt;a href=&quot;http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2007/12/zeitgeist-of-zeitgeist-movie.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Zeitgeist of the &#039;Zeitgeist Movie&#039;&lt;/a&gt;. Look to it for a more detailed rebuttal of the movie&#039;s claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Cole: No. If the movie was correct it would be a good argument for not believing in Christianity, but it would not be a good argument for becoming a pagan. Showing that a false idea comes from another source doesn’t make the original source true.</p>
<p>to Ash: even if you are correct about the constellation shifting in the horizon over the centuries, it doesn’t establish your point. The Southern Cross remains a modern invention and the fact remains that the Romans crucifed people left and right without needing any astrological reason for their preferred method of execution.</p>
<p>It’s been six months since I wrote this post, and since then a helpful review by Ben Witherington has been posted — <a href="http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/2007/12/zeitgeist-of-zeitgeist-movie.html" rel="nofollow">The Zeitgeist of the ‘Zeitgeist Movie’</a>. Look to it for a more detailed rebuttal of the movie’s claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick comment on the Southern Cross.  I think you&#039;ll find that in the time of when the myths are written that the &quot;crux&quot; constellation was indeed visible.  Knowing that much should be the clue you need.  The other points require a bit more explanation, but might be enough to get you thinking in another direction!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick comment on the Southern Cross.  I think you’ll find that in the time of when the myths are written that the “crux” constellation was indeed visible.  Knowing that much should be the clue you need.  The other points require a bit more explanation, but might be enough to get you thinking in another direction!</p>
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		<title>By: Cole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first of all I would like to say i respect your position and status

that being said:
if the correlations between the pagan and christian religions are correctly stated in this movie
would it be blasphemous for christians to convert to a more pagan based way of life?
keeping in mind that the entire basis for christianity is from pagan religions

cole</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first of all I would like to say i respect your position and status</p>
<p>that being said:<br />
if the correlations between the pagan and christian religions are correctly stated in this movie<br />
would it be blasphemous for christians to convert to a more pagan based way of life?<br />
keeping in mind that the entire basis for christianity is from pagan religions</p>
<p>cole</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you misunderstand my point - let&#039;s change the number from 50 to 500 to make the it clearer. 

Predicting 500 coin tosses in a row incorrectly is remarkable - and it is just as remarkable as predicting 500 coin tosses in a row correctly.

Both are equally absurd statistical outliers.

I am using this to illustrate my main point - that for a religion to be 100% wrong in every respect would be extremely surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you misunderstand my point — let’s change the number from 50 to 500 to make the it clearer. </p>
<p>Predicting 500 coin tosses in a row incorrectly is remarkable — and it is just as remarkable as predicting 500 coin tosses in a row correctly.</p>
<p>Both are equally absurd statistical outliers.</p>
<p>I am using this to illustrate my main point — that for a religion to be 100% wrong in every respect would be extremely surprising.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are not alternatives, rather continuous &quot;whole parts&quot;. That to which you refer as parallelism would be the key. Which apple you choose is irrelevant, how you eat it determines the flavour!

In addition, 50 falsely called, and 50 correctly identified coin tosses are not remarkable. They&#039;re expressions of probability, that same probability that holds you to the physical/mental place in which you find yourself at this moment. Similarly, the same probability that influenced your respective &quot;clergy&#039;s&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are not alternatives, rather continuous “whole parts”. That to which you refer as parallelism would be the key. Which apple you choose is irrelevant, how you eat it determines the flavour!</p>
<p>In addition, 50 falsely called, and 50 correctly identified coin tosses are not remarkable. They’re expressions of probability, that same probability that holds you to the physical/mental place in which you find yourself at this moment. Similarly, the same probability that influenced your respective “clergy’s”.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should always be reflecting on our faith and our roles as clergy. ;)

But Zeitgeist aside, the fact that there are legitimate parallels to other world religions embedded within Christianity shouldn&#039;t bother us. What&#039;s the alternative - to believe that every other religion on the planet is wrong in every conceivable way? 

We should expect a certain level of parallelism if for no other reason than that it&#039;s just as remarkable to call 50 coin tosses in a row wrong as it is to call them correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should always be reflecting on our faith and our roles as clergy. <img src='http://glenandpaula.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But Zeitgeist aside, the fact that there are legitimate parallels to other world religions embedded within Christianity shouldn’t bother us. What’s the alternative — to believe that every other religion on the planet is wrong in every conceivable way? </p>
<p>We should expect a certain level of parallelism if for no other reason than that it’s just as remarkable to call 50 coin tosses in a row wrong as it is to call them correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Dahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Dahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen this movie and found it quite bothersome given that it certainly shook my &quot;faith&quot; tree. As a Pastor I was very bothered by its claims and have been wondering what other Pastors, Clergy and Christians think about it. Like you I did find some problems with the film but it is still troubling to think that there really is multiple expressions of what was hereto called &quot;astrotheology&quot;. It seems to me that even if half of the imformation presented is true and there are these parallels with other world religions then isn&#039;t that enough to make us take a more serious look at our faith and our roles as clergy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen this movie and found it quite bothersome given that it certainly shook my “faith” tree. As a Pastor I was very bothered by its claims and have been wondering what other Pastors, Clergy and Christians think about it. Like you I did find some problems with the film but it is still troubling to think that there really is multiple expressions of what was hereto called “astrotheology”. It seems to me that even if half of the imformation presented is true and there are these parallels with other world religions then isn’t that enough to make us take a more serious look at our faith and our roles as clergy?</p>
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