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  • Dick Staub Interviews Mary Poplin

    Posted on December 9th, 2003 Academic Integration No comments

    I just ran across a transcript of an interview with Mary Poplin.

    Dr. Poplin is the Dean of the School of Educational Studies at Claremont Graduate University and she’s currently writing a book (title unknown) about integrating faith and academia. (see her faculty bio page)

    You should really read the interview on Dick Staub’s website, but I’ve excerpted the most fascinating bits…


    Q. How pervasive was that anti-Christian bias in your education as you were going through the system?


    and later …



    A. Exactly. What more?

    Q. Does it get any more meaningful than this?

    Q. Uh-huh.

    Q. Uh-huh.

    Q. Uh-huh.

    Q. Really.
    A. Never. And that was good.

    Q. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

    Q. Wow.

    Q. Hm.

    Q. Uh-huh.

    Q. Uh-huh.

    continuing the story…



    Q. Yeah.
    A. So it was a communion call.

    Q. Yeah.

    Q. Really.
    A. Uh-huh.



    Q. Had you taken communion since high school?

    Q. Wow.
    A. And then not long after that I was involved in an incident that you could only say displayed evil. And that night when I opened up the Psalms, I understood. It was just like I had immediate revelation. It was almost like scales falling from your eyes?

    Q. Wow.
    A. I understood that evil existed, I had no question about it, and I understood that it was in me.

    and the interview wraps up with

    Q. Yeah. And what did you say?

    Q. Wow.
    A. Yeah. So when I realized what it was there was a sense of relief.

    Q. Feel like a liar how?


    Q. Right.

    Q. Right.

    Q. Right.

    Q. Hm, interesting.

    Q. Yeah.

    Q. Sure, please.

    Q. Uh-huh.
    A. And you could actually classify those two issues, accountability and social justice, as left and right kinds of things.

    Q. Uh-huh.

    Q. And how is that being received within the academic community? First of all, by peers?

    Q. Wow. How is this change in your life being received by students?
    A. Actually, the students are pretty interesting. Students are curious intellectually. They tend to be fairly open. None of the courses at Claremont are required, so no one has to be in my class.

    Q. Uh-huh.

    Q. Wow. So-so what are you learning about the nature of your calling as you understand it right now?

    Q. Yeah.
    A. That does not happen with any other worldview.

    Q. Idea. Yeah, yeah.

    Q. Uh-huh.

    Q. Non-integrated.

    Q. Right. Right, right, right.

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