Worship In The Emerging Church

Peri­od­i­cal­ly I get a chance to sit in a live stu­dio audi­ence for a CCN broad­cast. I’ve seen Doug Fields, George Bar­na, Lar­ry Osborne, Hen­ry Cloud, etc. The best part is I can bring stu­dents and expose them to some of these lead­ers.

Any­way, I was par­tic­u­lar­ly excit­ed about the recent Wor­ship In The Emerg­ing Church sem­i­nar with Dan Kim­ball (he blogs!) and Sal­ly Mor­gen­thaler. If you’re going to hear two folks talk about this sub­ject it’s hard to pick a bet­ter team. You can get the notes in PDF (although there are blanks).

Some thoughts I had:

  • As I sus­pect­ed, col­lege min­istry real­ly is a behind-the-scenes dri­ver for a lot of the “emerg­ing church” “post­mod­ern church” stuff. Dan launched the pre­cur­sor to his cur­rent church as a col­lege min­istry. All the staff at Cur­tis’ church (includ­ing Cur­tis) are for­mer col­lege min­is­ters.
  • Dan men­tioned that he had done a sur­vey and 98% of UC San­ta Cruz stu­dents were not part of either a church or a cam­pus min­istry. Hur­ry up, Bri­an & Cecilee!
  • Cur­tis Chang was also there as an audi­ence mem­ber. He wrote a book on method­ol­o­gy in apolo­get­ics (Engag­ing Unbe­lief) which I real­ly like. He also pas­tors an uber-cool church in near­by San Jose. I asked what he’s been read­ing late­ly and he said Moun­tains Beyond Moun­tains and that it had real­ly stretched his vision. I’d nev­er heard of the book, which just shows I real­ly do know less than oth­er peo­ple think I do.
  • The weak­est point in the sem­i­nar was a for­ay into the realms of mul­ti­ple learn­ing styles. I find the con­cept as it is usu­al­ly expressed pret­ty bogus. I’m not sure the church should be tak­ing its lead from Amer­i­ca’s edu­ca­tion sys­tem and the the­o­ries that under­lie it. Let me rephrase that. I’m sure the church should not be tak­ing its lead from Amer­i­ca’s edu­ca­tion sys­tem. My apolo­gies to all the edu­ca­tion­al the­o­rists in Chi Alpha who will now regard me as an ene­my.
  • Resources that were rec­om­mend­ed:
  • In clos­ing, I’d nev­er seen Dan before this but I’d heard peo­ple rip on his hair. I like his hair. It suits his nose. He also plays with his wed­ding ring a lot, which I do myself.

One thought on “Worship In The Emerging Church”

  1. I don’t have any great author­i­ty or expe­ri­ence, but I will throw my opin­ion in any­way.
    So you real­ly don’t think excel­lence should be a core val­ue? Glen, I must say I like you more and more every­day. I don’t think excel­lence should be at our core as well. I don’t real­ly know if I can explain why. Maybe because it seper­ates peo­ple. It push­es that you can­not par­tic­i­pate in church unless you are the best speak­er, wor­ship leader, or what­ev­er. The “excel­lent” peo­ple have church, and the rest of us are just there to watch, and because we are not “excel­lent”, we are only fit to be observers of the church and not meme­bers. I like to think God enjoys our desire to please Him more than our per­for­mance. We should always serve God and each oth­er as best we can, but mak­ing excel­lence a core val­ue goes against believ­ing that God lwants us to serve out of love, not just tal­ent. I will read the essay.

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