Stanford Grads In Unexpected Places

As some­one raised Epis­co­palian I tend to feel sor­row when­ev­er I read about the Epis­co­pal church in the news. The glob­al Angli­can com­mu­nion is doing okay, but the Amer­i­can denom­i­na­tion has real­ly jumped the tracks since I was born.

In case you haven’t heard, the Epis­co­pal Church in Amer­i­ca just elect­ed its first female pri­mate ever — Katharine Jef­ferts Schori. That’s not the source of my sor­row — I firm­ly believe in the min­istry of women (as does my denom­i­na­tion).

Here’s where the sor­row comes in: she’s appar­ent­ly an advo­cate of ordain­ing open­ly gay priests and bish­ops. So her elec­tion was sort of a slap in the face to the world­wide Angli­can com­mu­nion, a sig­nif­i­cant por­tion of which seems pre­pared to write Ich­a­bod over the door of the Epis­co­palian church.

After the usu­al sigh that escapes my lips when see­ing the Epis­co­pal church in the head­lines, one detail leapt out at me: Bish­op Schori grad­u­at­ed with a degree in biol­o­gy from Stan­ford in 1974. Thanks to pur­ga­to­rio for putting that infor­ma­tion where it caught my eye.

Those darn Stan­ford alumni–they just keep show­ing up in the news. Some­times for good and some­times for bad, but always mak­ing a dif­fer­ence.

Things Which Interested Glen Last Week

Things I book­marked last week on del.icio.us.

Dis­claimer: these links are post­ed auto­mat­i­cal­ly using the excel­lent yawd hack and are mere­ly things that were inter­est­ing enough to book­mark for future reference–I may or may not agree with the views expressed by the linked pages. In fact, I may not have even read them yet.

Some Gal Walking Through One Of Our Videos

I’m always amazed at how putting videos online has exposed Chi Alpha to peo­ple who would nev­er oth­er­wise dark­en the door of our gath­er­ings. For exam­ple, this gal was walk­ing through the back­ground of an inter­view I did with Dr. William Lane Craig and noticed her­self when lat­er watch­ing the video. She then blogged about it and it got back to me. What a small and crazy con­struct the inter­net is…

Any­way, I should men­tion that she curs­es in this post. If you pre­fer not to read pro­fan­i­ty then just skip read­ing the link and trust me that she men­tions the video and links to the Chi Alpha @ Stan­ford web­site.

Alas, she seems to have been unper­suad­ed by Dr. Craig’s argu­ments.

Some Thoughts On Jesus and History

An arti­cle in the Stan­ford Dai­ly today caught my atten­tion: Jesus Nev­er Lived, Speak­er Says.

My first thought was a bit car­nal — how come our events don’t get the same cov­er­age in the Dai­ly? We almost cer­tain­ly draw more peo­ple (as when Dr. Bill Craig lec­tured on the exis­tence of God to a crowd of hun­dreds) and our views are cer­tain­ly con­tro­ver­sial (God exists, Jesus is God, sin is real, sal­va­tion is pos­si­ble, etc).

My sec­ond thought was more focused: I should respond to this. I hear more and more stu­dents talk­ing about the exis­tence of Jesus as though there is some real con­tro­ver­sy, so I should­n’t let this pass with­out com­ment.

Now I was­n’t at the talk, so I don’t know exact­ly what the speak­er said. All I know is what the arti­cle claims the speak­er said. He could have been con­sid­er­ably more effec­tive at mak­ing his point than the arti­cle seems to indi­cate. This isn’t, strict­ly speak­ing, a cri­tique of the speak­er so much as a reflec­tion on the whole notion of Jesus being a make-believe per­son.

Accord­ing to the arti­cle, there are two clues that Jesus nev­er exist­ed:
1) Paul did­n’t talk about the details of Jesus’ life
2) The sto­ries about Jesus sound pret­ty amaz­ing.

So Paul did­n’t talk about the details of Jesus’ life in his let­ters. I find this unsur­pris­ing giv­en that I, an ordained Pen­te­costal mis­sion­ary, rarely do so in my own let­ters. Even when writ­ing let­ters devot­ed to the­ol­o­gy I rarely talk about Jesus’ life the way that the speak­er seemed to assume that Paul should have:

“Paul nev­er dis­cuss­es Jesus’ fam­i­ly, his deeds, where he went or where he came from,” Car­ri­er said. “He nev­er dis­cuss­es any of his con­fronta­tions with the author­i­ties, nor any dis­putes about what he taught. He says Jesus became flesh, was cru­ci­fied and buried, but he nev­er says when or where or posi­tions these events in any his­tor­i­cal con­text.”

I rarely bring up these details because they are assumed to be the back­ground for the con­ver­sa­tion, in much the same way that I rarely men­tion the details of George Bush’s life when dis­cussing his pol­i­tics. That does­n’t mean I don’t believe in or am unaware of the fact that he has daugh­ters — it just means that I don’t always con­sid­er them ger­mane.

To insist that Paul should have men­tioned such details as evi­dence that he believed Jesus was a real per­son seems quite arbi­trary to me, espe­cial­ly giv­en that he men­tions Jesus by name 198 times with absolute­ly no indi­ca­tion that he’s refer­ring to a made-up indi­vid­ual. No one would argue that I don’t believe in George Bush on such grounds, and so I don’t see why we should think that this is evi­dence that Paul did­n’t believe in Jesus.

As to Jesus’ life sound­ing pret­ty amaz­ing — ya think? That sort of seems to be the point. The claim that Jesus was God in human form almost requires that cer­tain amaz­ing events occur through­out his life. So I sort of scratch my head when the guest lec­tur­er says:

“Jesus con­forms so close­ly to the cri­te­ri­on of a myth­ic hero the prob­a­bil­i­ty that he was a myth­ic hero increas­es sub­stan­tial­ly,” he said. “There are 22 fea­tures that have been iden­ti­fied by schol­ars that are com­mon­ly shared by many myth­ic heroes. They can be ranked with a score accord­ing to how many fea­tures they have. Jesus clear­ly scores at least 19 out of 22.”

Jesus scores high­er on this scale than almost all oth­er heroes, includ­ing Her­cules and Romu­lus, Car­ri­er said. Only Oedi­pus scores high­er.

“Jesus com­petes for sec­ond place only with The­seus and Moses,” he said. “Every­one who scores more than 11 on this scale is most like­ly myth­i­cal. No his­tor­i­cal fig­ures who accu­mu­lat­ed some of these fea­tures by chance or leg­end, such as Alexan­der the Great or Augus­tus Cae­sar, scores even as high as 11.”

Well of course he scores quite high. That’s like point­ing out that NBA play­ers are tall and ath­let­ic. How do you think they score all those points? Jesus being extra­or­di­nary is sim­ply evi­dence that he was extra­or­di­nary. Whether he was extra­or­di­nary by not exist­ing or extra­or­di­nary by being God is the ques­tion the guest speak­er wished to address — but his argu­ment does noth­ing to tip the bal­ance.

Against these fee­ble argu­ments stands the schol­ar­ly con­sen­sus that there was actu­al­ly a man named Jesus. Why is there such a con­sen­sus? Because in addi­tion to the Bible, there is plen­ty of exter­nal evi­dence that Jesus lived. For exam­ple:

There’s a very help­ful (although incom­plete) arti­cle sum­ma­riz­ing these and oth­er extra­bib­li­cal sources about Jesus which includes a dis­cus­sion of the reli­a­bil­i­ty of the Jose­phus text.

I think the reporter was wise to include this dis­claimer the guest speak­er offered:

Despite this evi­dence, Car­ri­er was quick to point out that this is just a the­o­ry.

“We need to go out and inter­act with the com­mu­ni­ty and see if it stands up to the evi­dence,” he said. “I’m not here declar­ing that this is absolute­ly true and it would be fool­ish to deny it. We’re not at that stage yet.

“The nor­mal pro­ce­dure is to assume that a per­son who is claimed to be his­tor­i­cal is his­tor­i­cal,” he con­tin­ued, “unless there is a rea­son to doubt it. I believe this is an appro­pri­ate prin­ci­ple. For exam­ple, mere­ly lack­ing evi­dence is not enough of an argu­ment for some­one not exist­ing his­tor­i­cal­ly. You need actu­al evi­dence for them being mythi­fied.”

I am still await­ing such evi­dence.

Dr. Dana

I’m a lit­tle under the weath­er today (I have this real­ly painful cough that kept me up most of the night) and Dana noticed that I was rub­bing my eyes at lunch. The fol­low­ing dia­log ensued:

Dana: “Watchoo doing?”
Dad­dy: “Dad­dy’s sick and tired, and he’s try­ing to feel bet­ter.”
Dana: “You wan­na feel much bet­ter?”
Dad­dy: “Yes, Dad­dy would real­ly like to feel much bet­ter.”
Dana: “You want some dia­per cream?”

Bless her heart.

My Favorite Line From My Sermon This Week

“Of course, then the witch­es showed up and so we did­n’t get to fin­ish our con­ver­sa­tion.”

Richard Mouw rocks

I just fin­ished read­ing Calvin­ism in the Las Vegas Air­port by Richard Mouw (pres­i­dent of Fuller The­o­log­i­cal Sem­i­nary). It was great. I’ve read one oth­er book of his, Con­sult­ing the Faith­ful: What Chris­t­ian Intel­lec­tu­als Can Learn from Pop­u­lar Reli­gion, and I loved it as well. I’d have to say he’s one of my favorite low-vol­ume authors.

Dog the Bounty Hunter

Dog the Boun­ty Hunter has to be one of the most fas­ci­nat­ing indi­vid­u­als I’ve ever seen on tele­vi­sion. If you ever get a chance to watch the show, I high­ly rec­om­mend it.

Rejected Texts For a Mother’s Day Sermon

Moth­er’s Day is an odd Sun­day in most church­es. Pas­tors get up and talk about Proverbs 31 or some oth­er pre­dictible text, and then give every lady a rose.

I’m not actu­al­ly preach­ing this week­end (Paula is, as it turns out), but if I was I’d be look­ing for a more unusu­al angle. For instance, here are some less­er-known vers­es which touch on the theme of moth­er­hood.

  1. Psalm 109:14 — may the sin of his moth­er nev­er be blot­ted out.
  2. Isa­iah 50:1 — This is what the LORD says: “Where is your moth­er’s cer­tifi­cate of divorce with which I sent her away?
  3. Jere­mi­ah 22:26 — I will hurl you and the moth­er who gave you birth into anoth­er coun­try, where nei­ther of you was born, and there you both will die.
  4. Hosea 2:2 Rebuke your moth­er
  5. Hosea 4:5 I will destroy your moth­er
  6. Luke 12:53 They will be divid­ed, father against son and son against father, moth­er against daugh­ter and daugh­ter against moth­er, moth­er-in-law against daugh­ter-in-law and daugh­ter-in-law against moth­er-in-law.
  7. Deuteron­o­my 22:7 You may take the young, but be sure to let the moth­er go
  8. Exo­dus 23:19 Do not cook a young goat in its moth­er’s milk.
  9. Job 17:14, CEV: say to the worms, “Hel­lo, moth­er!”
  10. Lev 18:7, MSG She is your moth­er. Don’t have sex with her.

Maybe Proverbs 31 isn’t such a bad choice after all… 😉

Please note that most of these vers­es have been hor­ri­bly wrenched from their con­text to make them even less appro­pri­ate for a moth­er’s day ser­mon.