Religion and the Maxim Society

These are notes from a lec­ture I pre­sent­ed on “Reli­gion In the Max­im Soci­ety” in Ron Howard’s class on Vol­un­tary Social Sys­tems (no class web­site that I could find).

In case you’re won­der­ing, a max­im soci­ety is one in which every law flows from the max­im that “peace­ful, hon­est peo­ple have a right to be left alone.” It is a the­o­ret­i­cal soci­ety with­out any coer­cion and with max­i­mal free­dom. If you weren’t in the class, this won’t make much sense to you–my apolo­gies. I put this online to help out the stu­dents from the class, not to edu­cate the Inter­net at large about my hypo­thet­i­cal mus­ings on the­o­ret­i­cal soci­eties.

If you were in the class, these notes should be close to what I said but not com­plete­ly iden­ti­cal. Two rea­sons: I did­n’t deliv­er my notes ver­ba­tim and I tweaked one or two points in response to some of the ques­tions that let me know where I had been unclear. Also, in these notes I have attempt­ed to pro­vide all my sources and to hyper­link any ref­er­ences to make it easy to check me out.


Aca­d­e­mics Often Ignore Reli­gion (fool­ish­ly)
In the world of aca­d­e­mics, reli­gion is often over­looked. This point is illus­trat­ed quite strik­ing­ly by British econ­o­mist Ernst Schu­mach­er in the open­ing lines of his book A Guide For the Per­plexed:

On a vis­it to Leningrad some years ago I con­sult­ed a map to find out where I was, but I could not make it out. From where I stood, I could see sev­er­al enor­mous church­es, yet there was no trace of them on my map. When final­ly an inter­preter came to help me, he said: “We don’t show church­es on our maps.” Con­tra­dict­ing him, I point­ed to one that was very clear­ly marked. “That is a muse­um,” he said, “not what we call a ‘liv­ing church.’ It is only the ‘liv­ing church­es’ we don’t show.”

It then occurred to me that this was not the first time I had been giv­en a map which failed to show many things I could see right in front of my eyes. All through school and uni­ver­si­ty I had been giv­en maps of life and knowl­edge on which there was hard­ly a trace of many of the things that I most cared about and that seemed to me to be of the great­est pos­si­ble impor­tance to the con­duct of my life. I remem­bered that for many years my per­plex­i­ty had been com­plete; and no inter­preter had come along to help me. It remained com­plete until I ceased to sus­pect the san­i­ty of my per­cep­tions and began, instead, to sus­pect the sound­ness of the maps. (E.F. Schu­mach­er, A Guide For the Per­plexed page 1)

Today I want to help you take a look at the like­ly nature of reli­gion in a soci­ety in which all laws flow from the max­im, “Peace­ful, hon­est peo­ple have the right to be left alone.”

Or, to flesh out the terms in the max­im: “Peo­ple who do not use force on oth­ers and who ful­fill their con­trac­tu­al oblig­a­tions to oth­ers have the right to not be coerced.”

Such a soci­ety is a sta­ple in the genre of sci­ence fic­tion. As a sci­ence fic­tion fan, I’m always amazed at the wide­spread assump­tion in such tales that reli­gion will have at most a mar­gin­al role in future soci­eties, and that if reli­gion does sur­vive it will be in a vir­tu­al­ly unrec­og­niz­able form.

The rea­sons for such an assump­tion are myr­i­ad, and I could spend the rest of this class peri­od rais­ing and coun­ter­ing them.

I’ll give you just two rea­sons why such an assump­tion is naïve.
Con­tin­ue read­ing “Reli­gion and the Max­im Soci­ety”

The Message at Gospelcom

Hey– the Bible Gate­way now includes The Mes­sage trans­la­tion!

Hey– the Bible Gate­way now includes The Mes­sage trans­la­tion!

This is great–I used to use Quick­Verse for my ser­mon prep, but then I got a com­put­er with Win­dows XP and Quick­Verse would­n’t run under XP. Short­ly there­after, we moved to Palo Alto and got broad­band access.

As a result, I use online tools all the time in my ser­mon prep. My sole regret has been that I haven’t been able to access the Mes­sage in all that time. That’s a big­ger deal than it would be with most trans­la­tions, since there is no con­cor­dance to the Mes­sage. Either you search it elec­tron­i­cal­ly or you just rely on your mem­o­ry.

Now the three trans­la­tions I use most often are avail­able using the same online tool: The Mes­sage, the Con­tem­po­rary Eng­lish Ver­sion, and the New Liv­ing Trans­la­tion.

The Cold Reaches of Heaven

Sojourn­er Mag­a­zine just ran an arti­cle about Nobel lau­re­ate William Phillips called The Cold Reach­es of Heav­en. Phillips is a Chris­t­ian, and he has some­thing inter­est­ing to say about the rela­tion­ship between sci­ence and reli­gion:

“I’m not an anom­aly,” he says emphat­i­cal­ly. “In fact, I would say that if you were to ask, the major­i­ty of physi­cists would answer that they believe in God in one form or anoth­er. Maybe not in exact­ly the same way that I do, because I believe in a per­son­al God, but God in one form or anoth­er.”

in a lat­er sec­tion he com­ments:

“If I want to know how the uni­verse went through its stages of devel­op­ment, I ask obser­va­tion­al astron­o­my and the­o­ret­i­cal cos­mol­o­gy,” says Phillips. “If I want to know why are we here, why is there a uni­verse in the first place, or what is the nature of my rela­tion­ship to my Cre­ator, I turn to the Bible. But when I study cos­mol­o­gy as a sci­ence, when I study physics, one of the things that I learn is that there are very clear, beau­ti­ful­ly sim­ple laws that describe almost every­thing that I observe. I see that kind of sim­plic­i­ty and beau­ty, and I think, this is a put-up job, this did­n’t hap­pen by chance.” Phillips laughs.

“That’s a way in which sci­ence informs my faith. I don’t want to com­part­men­tal­ize them, but I am clear that there are ques­tions that are well-posed to sci­ence and ques­tions that are well-posed to reli­gion. But they’re not com­plete­ly sep­a­rate enti­ties.”

FYI: I’ve updat­ed our list of famous sci­en­tists who are Chris­t­ian with a link to the arti­cle.

God Bless My Alma Mater

This is pret­ty cool: the Assem­blies of God The­o­log­i­cal Sem­i­nary (where I got my M. Div.) was just named one of the ‘Best Chris­t­ian Places to Work In Amer­i­ca.’

This is pret­ty cool: the Assem­blies of God The­o­log­i­cal Sem­i­nary (where I got my M. Div.) was just named one of the ‘Best Chris­t­ian Places to Work In Amer­i­ca.’

Paula worked there while I was in sem­i­nary and short­ly after, and I assure you that the claim is well-found­ed. AGTS ain’t per­fect, but it sure beats most of the alter­na­tives out there.

Con­grat­u­la­tions, alma mater!

Homosexuality At Stanford

Yes­ter­day morn­ing Paula and I attend­ing the quar­ter­ly meet­ing for rec­og­nized reli­gious pro­fes­sion­als at Stan­ford. Our top­ic was homo­sex­u­al­i­ty, and so I was expect­ing quite an inter­est­ing meet­ing.

Yes­ter­day morn­ing Paula and I attend­ing the quar­ter­ly meet­ing for rec­og­nized reli­gious pro­fes­sion­als at Stan­ford. Our top­ic was homo­sex­u­al­i­ty, and so I was expect­ing a pret­ty vig­or­ous dis­cus­sion.

For the record, there was no shout­ing. It was all very civ­il (with the pos­si­ble excep­tion of a ques­tion that could be inter­pret­ed as hon­est inquiry or a cheap shot depend­ing on how much slack you want­ed to cut the questioner–I per­son­al­ly thought it was a cheap shot and I’ll leave it at that).

The for­mat was sim­ple: six rep­re­sen­ta­tives from six dif­fer­ent reli­gious tra­di­tions sum­ma­rized both their philo­soph­i­cal stance and their prac­ti­cal approach to homo­sex­u­al­i­ty on cam­pus. That for­mat explains the civility–as you’ll see there were some pret­ty dif­fer­ent per­spec­tives.

First up was the Mor­mon rep­re­sen­ta­tive (Alon­zo). He took a gra­cious but firm stance against homo­sex­u­al­i­ty. Two inter­est­ing points: he root­ed his atti­tude in the Mor­mon con­cep­tion of the fam­i­ly as eter­nal, and he was care­ful to point out that thoughts and feel­ings can­not be sin­ful. I would strong­ly dis­agree with him on both points.

Next was Rab­bi Noa, the Jew­ish rep­re­sen­ta­tive. She took a strong­ly pos­i­tive stance towards homo­sex­u­al­i­ty, and tried to explain all the Old Tes­ta­ment ref­er­ences in terms of for­bid­ding pagan rit­u­als. I’m exceed­ing­ly skep­ti­cal, and after the meet­ing I asked her for some doc­u­men­ta­tion of that claim.

After that the Catholic rep­re­sen­ta­tive (There­sa) made her pitch. She accu­rate­ly recit­ed the teach­ings of the church (the ori­en­ta­tion is not nec­es­sar­i­ly sin­ful but the prac­tice is intrin­si­cal­ly evil), and then pro­ceed­ed to tell us why her church was wrong. I thought that was… inter­est­ing.

Next up was Ron Sanders (Cam­pus Cru­sade for Christ) speak­ing on behalf of the evan­gel­i­cals. He did an out­stand­ing job, first tear­ful­ly apol­o­giz­ing for the evils done under the guise of Bib­li­cal author­i­ty, and then uphold­ing Bib­li­cal author­i­ty: homo­sex­u­al­i­ty is immoral. Per­haps peo­ple can­not con­trol their ori­en­ta­tion, but homo­sex­u­als have the same respon­si­bil­i­ty as heterosexuals–>to not engage in sex out­side of mar­riage. He expressed an unpop­u­lar truth in a hum­ble and respect­ful man­ner.

Then Richard, the Luther­an priest, gave his per­spec­tive. He’s gay him­self, and so it was unsur­pris­ing that he very strong­ly endorsed the com­pat­i­bil­i­ty of Chris­tian­i­ty and homo­sex­u­al­i­ty. He’s a very dynam­ic speak­er.

Final­ly we had a Bud­dhist spokesper­son. David had an inter­est­ing approach, sug­gest­ing that in Bud­dhism the goal is to deny desire of any sort. Homo­sex­u­als need to tran­scend their desire for sex in the same way that het­ero­sex­u­als do. Inter­est­ing. As a Chris­t­ian I would respond that desire is not bad if it is a desire for a good thing. Homo­sex­u­al desire is bad because it is a desire for a bad thing.

Over­all, it was clear that the major­i­ty of min­is­ters at Stan­ford view homo­sex­u­al­i­ty as a moral­ly neu­tral issue. No sur­pris­es there. I was pleas­ant­ly sur­prised that the orga­niz­er picked speak­ers with a diver­si­ty of per­spec­tives. I was espe­cial­ly thrilled that they invit­ed the Cam­pus Cru­sade leader to present the evan­gel­i­cal per­spec­tive.

It was also clear that peo­ple hold their views on this sub­ject pas­sion­ate­ly. There were sev­er­al tears in evi­dence, and you could sense ten­sion in the room through­out the dis­cus­sion.

In case any­one is curi­ous, the Assem­blies of God (and I as its rep­re­sen­ta­tive) believe that God’s inten­tion is that sex be expressed between one man and one woman in the con­text of the life­long com­mitt­ment called mar­riage.

In a relat­ed sto­ry, yes­ter­day there was Stan­ford Free­dom to Mar­ry Ral­ly, advo­cat­ing the legal­iza­tion of gay mar­riages.

I Never Saw It Coming When I Woke Up…

This was a pret­ty amaz­ing day–I bought a djem­be for our min­istry, I was for­mal­ly invit­ed to guest lec­ture in a grad class about “The Role of Reli­gion In the Ide­al Soci­ety”, I had a neat answer to prayer, and I met a remark­able per­son.

This was a pret­ty amaz­ing day–I bought a djem­be for our min­istry, I was for­mal­ly invit­ed to guest lec­ture in a grad class about “The Role of Reli­gion In the Ide­al Soci­ety”, I had a neat answer to prayer, and I met a remark­able per­son.

First, the neat answer to prayer: I’ve been vis­it­ing a guy named Tom at Stan­ford Uni­ver­si­ty Med­ical Cen­ter. He has a tra­chea tube which pre­vents him from speak­ing, and so I had to work out a chart that allowed him to spell out words to me using ges­tures. Today he asked me to pray that he would be able to speak soon–as we fin­ished pray­ing a doc­tor walked in a placed a spe­cial attach­ment on the end of his tra­chea tube that allowed him to do some vocal­iza­tion! He still can’t talk flu­ent­ly, but he’s on the recov­ery trail.

Sec­ond, today Paula and I went to pick up a stu­den­t’s father at San Jose Inter­na­tion­al Air­port. He’s going to be in town to see his daugh­ter and do some research. Any­way, I real­ized this morn­ing that I did­n’t real­ly know what Dr. Abegg looked like, so I googled for Mar­tin Abegg and short­ly real­ized that he’s the rea­son the Dead Sea Scrolls were pub­lished after decades of secre­cy! For more info, read the fas­ci­nat­ing com­men­tary by Penn Jil­lette (yes, the magi­cian of Penn & Teller fame) or the arti­cle The Dead Sea Scrolls: Mak­ing The Good Book Even Bet­ter?

Any­way, he’s a great guy and we had a won­der­ful time get­ting to know him bet­ter.

And I just thought this was going to be a day like any oth­er…

More on that guest lec­ture­ship in a grad class soon–The West Wing beck­ons…

Gas Prices State by State

I ran across this link today: Gas Prices State by State. Cal­i­for­nia, of course, tops the list for all the states–we even beat out Hawaii. I also learned recent­ly that real estate is cheap­er in Hawaii than here in the Bay Area. That just seems wrong on so many lev­els at once…

I ran across this link today: Gas Prices State by State. Cal­i­for­nia, of course, tops the list for all the states–we even beat out Hawaii. I also learned recent­ly that real estate is cheap­er in Hawaii than here in the Bay Area. That just seems wrong on so many lev­els at once…

For all our friends and fam­i­ly, this is the cur­rent break­down of Cali ver­sus the oth­er places we’ve lived.

Cal­i­for­nia $1.93
Louisiana $1.60
Mis­souri $1.58

Reno Is Beautiful!

This Wednes­day Paula and I drove up to Sparks, NV to preach at Cross­winds Assem­bly of God, which was a great expe­ri­ence.

nevada.jpgThis Wednes­day Paula and I drove up to Sparks, NV to preach at Cross­winds Assem­bly of God, which was a great expe­ri­ence.

First, Sparks is adja­cent to Reno–and that is an incred­i­bly beau­ti­ful area, sport­ing snow-capped moun­tains in vir­tu­al­ly every direc­tion.

Sec­ond, the church itself was very cool–the peo­ple were friend­ly, the wor­ship was great, and I got to use one of those cool lit­tle pro­fes­sion­al wire­less mikes that fits like a head­set (the kind Brit­ney and those boy bands use). I love gad­gets, and that was just plain neat.

Third, Paula and I were able to meet with five oth­er pas­tors for face-to-face pre­sen­ta­tions of our min­istry on Wednes­day and Thurs­day: Rod­ney Waters (Light­house of Natomas), David Hoskins (Val­ley View Chris­t­ian Fel­low­ship), Brent John­son (Reno Assem­bly of God), Ter­ry and Rita Fred (Sier­ra Church), Stan Friend (Cap­i­tal Chris­t­ian Cen­ter in Car­son City), and John Peter­son (South Shore Chris­t­ian Assem­bly).

Fourth, Den­nis Gay­lor (the nation­al Chi Alpha direc­tor) hap­pened to be in Reno and we got to meet him for lunch along with Ter­ry and Rita Fred.

Fifth, the last pas­tor we met with (John Peter­son) used to pas­tor here in Palo Alto. He and his wife pio­neered a church here around 1989 and over a decade grew it to around 350 peo­ple, includ­ing sev­er­al Stan­ford stu­dents. He got involved with min­istry on cam­pus and things were going well, and then he went to join the dis­trict denom­i­na­tion­al lead­er­ship team. The church dwin­dled and does­n’t exist any­more. Still, it was great talk­ing to him!

Sixth, we drove back through Lake Tahoe–simply stun­ning!

In oth­er words, this trip was fab­u­lous any way you count it. Sor­ry if you’ve sent me an email I haven’t respond­ed to yet, we just put over 600 miles on our car in two days and haven’t been near a com­put­er for that whole time. I’ll begin pro­cess­ing the back­log today and get it cleared out by tomor­row.

Our Speaking & Travel Schedule

If you’re a pas­tor, you might be curi­ous to know when we’re avail­able to do a mis­sions win­dow or a ser­vice at your church.

If you’re a pas­tor, you might be curi­ous to know when we’re avail­able to do a mis­sions win­dow or a ser­vice at your church.

Our cur­rent cal­en­dar:

Sep­tem­ber 2003
Trav­el­ing first week in Sep­tem­ber
Wed 9/3 PM: Cal­vary Tem­ple Youth Group (Yuba City, CA)
Sun 9/14 AM: Mount Pleas­ant Chris­t­ian Cen­ter (San Jose, CA)
Sun 9/21 AM: Stan­ford Mul­ti-Faith Wel­come
Sun 9/28 PM: Red­wood Val­ley Mis­sions Con­ven­tion (ten­ta­tive)

Octo­ber 2003 down­load bone col­lec­tor the movie
Sun 10/5 AM: Chris­t­ian Cen­ter of San Jose
Wed 10/15 PM: Assem­bly of God Taber­na­cle (Keyes, CA)

Novem­ber 2003
Sat 11/1 PM: The Car­pen­ter’s House (Modesto, CA)
Sun 11/2 AM: The Car­pen­ter’s House (Modesto, CA)
Wed 11/5 PM: Oak Park Chris­t­ian Cen­ter (Pleas­ant Hill, CA)
Sun 11/9 AM: South­bay Chris­t­ian Cen­ter (Moun­tain View, CA)
Sun 11/16 AM: First Assem­bly (San Diego, CA)

Feb­ru­ary 2004
2/1–2/6: Spir­i­tu­al Empha­sis Week at Cross­roads Chris­t­ian School (Mor­gan Hill, CA)

May 2004
Sun 5/23 AM: Trin­i­ty Life (Las Vegas, NV)

I Have The Best Wife Ever

For the record, I have the best wife ever. Hap­py Valen­tine’s Day, Paula!

For the record, I have the best wife ever. Hap­py Valen­tine’s Day, Paula!